Eat Well, Travel Better: The Business of Food Travel Podcast

Food Travel Inspiration for You & Your Business

"Eat Well, Travel Better: The Business of Food Travel" is the world's first and only podcast devoted to the business of food and beverage travel. With each episode, we meet industry leaders and examine their secrets of success. We reveal the obstacles and challenges they have faced, along with their solutions and triumphs, and give you ideas and inspirations for many of the same business issues that you may be facing as well.

Podcast co-hosts Erik Wolf and Aashi Vel help you become a better industry professional by gaining inspiration from some of the world's most successful people in the food and beverage tourism industry. Now almost in its third year, almost 3000 professionals listen to the podcast annually.

The podcast focuses on the person being interviewed; a remarkable thing they’ve done, achieved or experienced; and what that experience taught them. Discussion of what they do (their product or service) or their company is minimal.

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Episode 23: Living on the Edge

In this episode #23, we speak with Raj Gyawali. Raj is an expert on responsible tourism. He loves soft adventure, cycling and salads! A serial entrepreneur, he is the owner and strategist behind a variety of socially responsible businesses - socialtours in Nepal and Ethical Travel Portal in Norway. He also provides strategic advice in the businesses conceived and operated by his wife Birgit Lienhart-Gyawali, Karma Coffee Nepal and the conscious living space HUB in Kathmandu. He constantly develops new experiences and loves the creative process that is required to develop new products and experiences! He would rather be in the mountains anytime!

Discussed in this episode:


Raj's links:

Social Tours

Ethical Travel Portal

In this episode you'll learn:

  • What "linked prosperity" is and how you can work it into your business
  • Why if you’re not living on the edge, you’re taking up too much space!
  • How keeping a simple focus can help you achieve your goals
  • Why plans seldom survive reality and what you can do about it

Episode 22: Sharing Abundance With Others

In this episode #22, we speak with Eric Aebi. In his current position as Program Chair of Hospitality & Tourism Management at Chemeketa Community College, and President of Ethos Hospitality & Tourism, Eric’s focus is on workforce development in the US State of Oregon, as well as abroad. He is an advocate for authentic food tourism experiences that connect guests with local farmers, entrepreneurs and places, to the mutual benefit of all. The ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus became Eric’s guiding influence when he first heard his words of wisdom, “It’s not what we have, but what we enjoy, that constitutes our abundance.” Eric seeks to create abundance and share it with others.

Discussed in this episode:


Eric's links:

Chemeketa Community College

Eric on LinkedIn

In this episode you'll learn:

  • Why too many visitors can ruin a destination’s authenticity & what to do about it
  • Why we need to promote the value of hospitality careers, to industry, youth and the media
  • How globalization has adversely affected the food-loving visitor experience
  • Why food memories last so long
  • What zero-sum thinking is and why it’s a bad deal for everyone
  • How food can break down the walls of fear

Episode 21: Don't Ask for Permission, Ask for Forgiveness

In this episode #21, we speak with John Mulcahy, a hospitality and food tourism tourism professional from Ireland. John has packed a lot into forty years - studying, observing, and participating in the tourism and hospitality industry as a student, employee, employer, owner, lecturer and public servant, largely in Ireland, but also in the USA, the UK, & the Middle East.

Discussed in this episode:


John's links:

John on

John on LinkedIn

In this episode you'll learn:

  • How to be part of the solution not part of the problem
  • Why you should take the road less traveled and don't be afraid where it leads. You'll surprise yourself.
  • Not to be scared to make mistakes; it's the only way to learn
  • To follow your heart and the money will follow after.
  • That it's OK to chase the money for a short while, but have a Plan B.
  • Why you should not ask for permission, rather for forgiveness
  • How the benefits of food tourism ripple out to all areas of the economy.
  • Why providers should not focus on creating just a product. Instead, they should create an experience. (This is similar to our Association's long-standing quote, "Serve a memory, not a meal).

Episode 20: There's No Hiding Behind the Internet

In this episode #20, we speak with Wojtek Osinski, a refugee from a multinational food manufacturing corporation, where he worked for 20 long years. It’s no surprise that after that much time, one acquires a lot of knowledge, information and experience. The time had come when Wojtek knew this was no longer the place for him. So he went back to his passions, which were food and travel, and focused full-time on his Taste Poland food travel blog, which he had been managing for 6 years. In addition to this noteworthy beacon of where to eat and drink in Poland, Wojtek advises food, beverage and tourism small to medium enterprises how to weave through the myriad complexities of business operations, from sales, to marketing, to strategy and service. Today the cause Wojtek is most passionate about is the globalization of culinary cultures, which is why he continues to do what he does.

Discussed in this episode:


Wojtek's company:

Taste Poland Food & Travel Consulting

Taste Poland Blog

In this episode you'll learn:

  • Why food culture makes us unique

  • How greed is a “four letter word” and is destroying food cultures.

  • Why you have to deliver a consistently excellent experience; there is no hiding behind the internet.

  • Why people crave authenticity and human connection – that’s why companies exist to match travelers to hosts to share meals in homes.

  • That business owners overlook the customer journey, but it’s one of the most critical things for you to understand to meet customer expectations.

Episode 19: Skip the Easy Money

In this episode #19 of Eat Well Travel Better, join us as we speak with Christie Peters, a former model, who left her modeling career to return to her hometown, Saksatoon, in the Canadian prairies, a land of opportunity, a kind of wild west, where innovative and passionate entrepreneurs can do more and innovate more quickly than in a bigger city. Today Christie is the successful Chef/Owner of The Hollows and Primal Pasta restaurants in Saskatoon, Canada. Through her unconventional sourcing and matching of the ingredients found in the harsh climate of the province of Saskatchewan, Christie has been able to achieve a remarkable level of recognition in just a few short years. 

Discussed in this episode:


Christie's companies:

The Hollows

Primal Pasta

In this episode you'll learn:

  • Make it nice or make it twice
  • Why slow and steady wins the race
  • Why you should skip the easy money
  • How waste is money
  • Watching the small details can add up to big savings
  • What you can do to avoid paying for advertising
  • What you can do to avoid having to repeat tasks

Episode 18: Make Lemonade When Life Gives You Lemons

In this episode #18 of Eat Well Travel Better, join us as we speak with Michele Morris, an award-winning cookbook author and freelance food writer. As a recipe developer and food photographer, she has worked with clients like Niman Ranch and Prairie Grove Farms. She publishes two popular blogs – a food blog with over 1000 recipes, and a travel blog featuring over 150 locations around the world with a heavy emphasis on the food and wine. Both blogs feature Michele’s photography. Although she only recently discovered her Italian roots, Italy holds a special place in Michele’s heart. She’s traveled to Rome nearly 20 times and leads culinary tours in southern Italy. When home in Denver, Michele volunteers extensively in her community.

Discussed in this episode:


Michele's companies:

Cooking With Michele

Michele Morris Books

In this episode you'll learn:

  • Why popular destinations are already losing their authenticity
  • Why multinational chain businesses are not a reason for travel
  • Why you can only do so much/not bite off more than you can chew
  • The one thing bloggers can do to set their food blogs apart from competition
  • Why first impressions of a destination and its food are so influential for food-loving travelers


Episode 17: Travel is the Best Education

In this episode #17 of Eat Well Travel Better, join us as we speak with Rosetta Ferrari. Born and raised in London to Italian parents, Rosetta spent her young life in and around the food industry, but chose to seek an alternative path. In her pursuit of a career in music, the food world kept finding its way back to her in the form of various jobs and opportunities, and eventually her position at a special interest holiday company required her to design and create bespoke itineraries for authentic Italian food tours, which run regularly throughout the year and often sell out at maximum capacity.

Discussed in this episode:


Rosetta's company:

Gregg Wallace Italian Food Holidays

In this episode you'll learn:

  • To know and focus on your true strengths, and hire others to do what you need help with
  • For those who are shy, how to arrange circumstances so you will be in a position to overcome your shyness
  • Why authentic cuisines ultimately beget fusion dishes
  • Why regional cuisines are, in many cases, more important than national cuisines
  • Why promoting regions instead of entire countries can help combat overtourism
  • Why travel is the best education


Episode 16: Stop Listening to Other People

In this episode #16 of Eat Well Travel Better, join us as we speak with Chantal Cooke, a noted influencer on the subjects of sustainability, and vegetarian and vegan travel. She hosts the Passion for the Planet website and online radio station. Chantal shares with us her thoughts on how and why food-loving travelers are changing their diets and why she thinks you should stop listening to the advice of others.



Discussed in this episode:


Chantal's company:

Passion for the Planet

In this episode you'll learn:

  • How the food tourism industry is behind the times, and why you are missing an important opportunity
  • Why more people than ever are looking for meat-free dishes
  • How traditions move on (and rightly so)
  • How vegetarian food can also please meat-eaters
  • Why restaurant and hotel chefs are actually being prevented by their owners from innovating with vegetarian and vegan cuisine
  • Why we should stop listening to others and start listening more to ourselves

Episode 15: Halal Isn't Just About Religion

In this episode, Halal food and travel expert Javier Albarracin, based in Barcelona, talks about Halal travel and how it's not a trend, but it's the preference of 1.6 billion consumers around the world. He shares why Halal isn't just about religious preferences and why it is an important concept to understand by foodservice professionals. He also recounts his views on how food and drink can be used to build bridges between disparate cultures.



Discussed in this episode:


Javier's company:

Barcelona Halal Services

In this episode you'll learn:

  • How people take their own behaviors and preferences with them when they travel.
  • Why special diets are here to stay. The preference for Halal is growing quickly, even among non-Muslims.
  • Halal isn't just about religious preferences, it's also a way to guarantee the origin of foods and protect food safety
  • Why it's so hard to reproduce a taste of place after you've traveled home from the place
  • How gastronomy and music are two universal languages
  • How gastronomy can build bridges

Episode 14: Cultivating a Sense of Community

In this episode, tourism development consultant Alison Burgh talks with us about the importance of cultivating a sense of community, why creating a unique and memorable experience is a critical part of getting food tourism right, and why you can't worry about doing what is expected of you. She cites examples in Jamaica and Belize to illustrate her points.

Discussed in this episode:


Alison's company

In this episode you'll learn:

  • Why developing a sense of community is critical in food tourism
  • Why creating a unique and memorable experience is a critical part of getting food tourism right
  • Why you can't worry about doing what is expected of you - just follow your heart

Episode 13: Instagram is not a Panacea

Amber and Eric Hoffman are a married couple who are also bloggers living in Girona, Spain in the Province of Catalonia. After extensive careers in law and advertising, Amber and Eric said goodbye to corporate life to travel the world in search of the best culinary destinations and experiences. 70+ countries and six years later, they are still going strong providing tips and recommendations on where to eat and what to eat around the world. They authored The Food Traveler’s Guide to Emilia Romagna, the only English language comprehensive food and wine travel guidebook to that region of Italy. Their second book, the Food Traveler’s Guide to the Costa Brava Spain will be out shortly. In this episode, Eric and Amber draw on their extensive experience with food and travel and share, among other valuable insights, why Instagram is not a panacea.

Discussed in this episode:


Their blog

Their company

In this episode you'll learn:

  • How being an entrepreneur is a job: you have to take it seriously
  • Why you need to have savings built up before you launch out on your own
  • How "no" is a big motivator
  • Why Instagram isn't the panacea everyone thinks it is
  • How secondary and tertiary destinations can help solve the overtourism problem
  • How to get professional quality photos and videos without spending a lot

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